If true, It's time to buy Take-Two now Microsoft!

[Mikewarrior]

Quote:
Major publisher and developer Take-Two (Grand Theft Auto series) has announced that it is considering a sale of the company, following a fierce shareholder battle which threatens to depose major executives and the board.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=13186

I wish it wouldn't come to that, but who else... I don't want EA.

Here's another link = http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4958&Itemid=2

Fixed ^

[big isy]

First link requires registration and second one is broken for me.

However, you're absolutely right so I don't need the links for clarification. Take-Two have been struggling for a number years now. If they're going to sell (which they will duh) I would rather they sell to a multiplatform developer. Besides, EA can't really damage the quality of a game unless they force it out the door and Rockstar would never stand for that.

[Mikewarrior]

Besides, EA can't really damage the quality of a game unless they force it out the door and Rockstar would never stand for that.

If EA buys them... Rockstar has no say, and many might leave Take-Two... And EA would own just about every sports team.

It can't be EA. If Microsoft acquires game developers like Take-Two... They should just do time exclusives for their platform first and release all the games on other consoles. You get the advantage of getting the games first to sell systems while not losing a ton of cash by excluding yourselves to a single console.

[big isy]

I can't see MS allowing the games to go multi-platform. Not when it could benefit them greatly.

And R* do have a say if EA buy them. It could be a partnered agreement where EA fund the projects and R* create the titles.
I'm not saying it has to be EA buying them (that would suck) but it's gotta be a multi-platform company.

[Mikewarrior]

I can't see MS allowing the games to go multi-platform. Not when it could benefit them greatly.

And R* do have a say if EA buy them. It could be a partnered agreement where EA fund the projects and R* create the titles.
I'm not saying it has to be EA buying them (that would suck) but it's gotta be a multi-platform company.

Microsoft is a multiplatform company... Do you forget the games for Windows, and RARE games going to the GBA?:D

Even if Microsoft were to allow Take-Two's games to go to all platforms... The huge advantage is in being the first to get them, and designed from the ground up on their own console.

[big isy]

You really think MS would allow the GTA's and Max Payne's coming to go multi-platform? Especially when they can say, "hey! Look, we got these games and they gots nuthin'!"

The GBA isn't really competing with the 360 is it and Games For Windows is essentially developing for their own platform considering the Live functionality and how MS is a PC company by nature.

[Mikewarrior]

You really think MS would allow the GTA's and Max Payne's coming to go multi-platform? Especially when they can say, "hey! Look, we got these games and they gots nuthin'!".

I think Microsoft would rather make money.

[big isy]

And they would make more buy keeping the game on their consoles only. people would have to buy their console to play the game. Those folks would also buy other games that are readily available. In all, I think MS would benefit more from a proper exclusive than a timed one.

[UNSCleric]

I reported a few weeks ago that EA is looking to buy Take-Two to kill off the rest of the 2K sports franchises. Wouldn't that be a fitting move by one of the cancers of the industry.

[CanadianZero]

Quote:
Major publisher and developer Take-Two (Grand Theft Auto series) has announced that it is considering a sale of the company, following a fierce shareholder battle which threatens to depose major executives and the board.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=13186

I wish it wouldn't come to that, but who else... I don't want EA.

Here's another link = http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4958&Itemid=2

Fixed ^

i think it would be cool if that happend, but i doubt MS would buy them, just because of the negative PR they could get.

[Souf Centrol]

GO EA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! lol

[Sirharper]

Yeah, buying up properties and ruining them is usually an MS trait.

EA has done great things for games in non-sport areas.

[Souf Centrol]

Yeah but it seems everyone hates EA, but hey to each it's own. I don't stand by any company nor any system

[Sirharper]

People that hate EA but love MS are internally conflicted. Both companies have demonstrated monopolistic tedancies.

EA has done some great work on NFS and especially LOTR:BFME.

[blazsox]

I dont see Sony or MS involved. As Take-Two makes money on both fronts. I can see an EA offer, but I dont see an EA signature.

I dont even see a sale really - a new board of directors will be voted in and will try to recoup the company. They will certainly dismantle some studios (all the budget ones probably) and keep only a few labels (Rockstar being their primary profit line).

[Mikewarrior]

People that hate EA but love MS are internally conflicted. Both companies have demonstrated monopolistic tedancies.

Please don't be a complete blinded ***... What do you think Sony has been trying to do with Movies/Music/TV's/HDTV's/Music players/Stereo Equipment/Video Game consoles, and now Blu-Ray media storage (Yes, Sony is the MAIN ones behind it)... It's funny how you say such *** things and yet overlook what Sony has done and is doing. If you would just open your eyes to see that all the things I listed relate to each other, and if that isn't demonstrating monopolistic tendencies...

[big isy]

enough of the name-calling for crying out loud. Do we really need to resort to that? Get back on topic and act mature or this'll be another thread that heads for the bin.

NOTE: This ain't a dig at you Mike, I'm just trying to stop this shit from spiralling out of control.

[Mikewarrior]

enough of the name-calling for crying out loud. Do we really need to resort to that? Get back on topic and act mature or this'll be another thread that heads for the bin.

NOTE: This ain't a dig at you Mike, I'm just trying to stop this shit from spiralling out of control.

I'm just tired of him already... He forum stalks and takes his 2-bit shots at me. :mad: Plus, I didn't directly call him any name.

Anyways so, let's see. Sony owns the musician contracts that make the music, they own the music they create, they own the studios they were recorded at, they own the recording label it was recorded under, they own the media it was recorded onto (CD's, Memory Sticks, etc), they own the devices that you listen to it on (CD players, Walkman's, home stereo's, etc), they probably own the stadiums that they play live at. They may even own some of the radio stations that play the music. Who knows? But what other portions of this aren't run or owned by Sony? Think about it as you go out and watch a Sony movie in a Sony movie theatre and then buy the soundtrack owned by Sony.

[Sirharper]

enough of the name-calling for crying out loud. Do we really need to resort to that? Get back on topic and act mature or this'll be another thread that heads for the bin.

NOTE: This ain't a dig at you Mike, I'm just trying to stop this shit from spiralling out of control.

Indeed. This I will not dignify his mutterings with a reply other than in every case he tried to demonstate Sony faces FIERCE competition.

[Mikewarrior]

Yeah, as there is Apple & Linux.

[Sirharper]

Yeah, as there is Apple & Linux.

One has slightly over 4.6% marketshare and the other has 2.8%. Not exactly fierce is it?

[Mikewarrior]

One has slightly over 4.6% marketshare and the other has 2.8%. Not exactly fierce is it?

I would like for you to prove those numbers.

Anyways, What FIERCE competition did Sony have with the PsONE & Ps2?

[Sirharper]

Sure. Although if you question it you should bear the burden of proof.

http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/10/19/marketshare/index.php

As for Linix...taken from ZDNet:

"On the desktop side, IDC sees Linux’ share more than doubling, from 3% today to 6% in 2007"

Don't ever question me again. Try to prove your own positions next time.

PS1 had the tail end of Sega and Nintendo to contend with.

[Mikewarrior]

Sure. Although if you question it you should bear the burden of proof.

http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/10/19/marketshare/index.php

As for Linix...taken from ZDNet:

"On the desktop side, IDC sees Linux’ share more than doubling, from 3% today to 6% in 2007"

Don't ever question me again. Try to prove your own positions next time.

PS1 had the tail end of Sega and Nintendo to contend with.

I question you because what you say is almost always wrong, and I wanted you to prove yourself as being so... Thanks.

Also, it's you who needs to prove such ignorant statements about Microsoft, while being so blind to Sony's attempts at controlling media storage/movies/games/music...etc. = Also all related... Hmmm???

Another thing... SEGA'S Genesis & Nintendo's SNES were has-beens by the time the Ps1 came out, and the SEGA Saturn was $399.99 compared to Sony's $299.99 for the PS1... There was no FIERCE competition at all. Sony outsold them by a very large margin.... and you talk of Microsoft's monopoly. :loser:

[Sirharper]

I really have no idea why you insist on calling me ignorant when at every turn I am shutting down your BS and rethotic. Nobody ever agrees with you and now you're even bickering with the only other person here that would share your "enthusiasm" (thats putting it very nicely).

If you cannot prima facia understand that the music and movie industry is de facto more cut throat then I am sorry but you are beyond lost. Your media storage example is comical considering you know no true Sony format has ever been succcessful. Blu Ray is of course NOT a Sony format as most everybody understands.

Sony, unlike MS, has never been the defendant in US and EU monopoly proceedings. You could not possibly be more wrong.

You make me laugh but it's really out of pity. Keep up the name calling though, sooner or later you're bound to get banned.

[big isy]

Its funny 'cause Crackdown has a couple of Sony produced tracks. :lol:

[Mikewarrior]

I really have no idea why you insist on calling me ignorant when at every turn I am shutting down your BS and rethotic. Nobody ever agrees with you and now you're even bickering with the only other person here that would share your "enthusiasm" (thats putting it very nicely).

If you cannot prima facia understand that the music and movie industry is de facto more cut throat then I am sorry but you are beyond lost. Your media storage example is comical considering you know no true Sony format has ever been succcessful. Blu Ray is of course NOT a Sony format as most everybody understands.

Sony, unlike MS, has never been the defendant in US and EU monopoly proceedings. You could not possibly be more wrong.

You make me laugh but it's really out of pity. Keep up the name calling though, sooner or later you're bound to get banned.

First of all learn to read... "Ignorant statements" get it, so I didn't call YOU any type of name.

And you say no one agrees with me? That just proves you are wrong again with another ignorant STATEMENT... There are many who feel the same way as I.

Also, who says Sony is not trying? YOU? Don't make me laugh at your blinded one-sided views. I never said Microsoft is perfect, I find fault in both... Just much more in Sony's case because that's the way it is in reality. However, all you do is try to point out the bad in Microsoft, & support them at the same time... while completely ignoring Sony's issues, or defending them... You think that's smart?

About who is in control of Blu-Ray = The "Blu-ray Disc Association" was founded in 2002 by nine leading electronic companies: Matsushita, Pioneer, Phillips, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp, Samsung and Sony as contrast to the DVD Forum. Spearheaded by Sony Corporation on February 19th 2002 the companies announced [1] they were the "Founders" of the Blu-ray Disc and later changed their name to the "Blu-ray Disc Association" - Now come to realize something... You are wrong again.

[big isy]

Er, that just says Sony kicked it off, doesn't mean they're in control. As far as I know (which is very little usually) they have a sort of union where they all gotta agree on set stuff.

[Mikewarrior]

Er, that just says Sony kicked it off, doesn't mean they're in control. As far as I know (which is very little usually) they have a sort of union where they all gotta agree on set stuff.

Do you know who invented Blu-Ray? Who do you think gets the most royalties from Blu-Ray sales? Sony isn't losing a lot of money on every PS3 sold for games alone... Now just think about it after you read this...

Sony invented Blu-Ray and supports it not only in electronics but through Sony Pictures, Sony Television, and other properties it owns (including Columbia, Tri-Star, and now MGM Studios). Dell, HP, and now Apple have all thrown their support behind Blu-Ray, and you’ll be able to buy drives not only from Sony but also from a variety of other manufacturers listed above.

http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/03/18/bluray/index.php

[big isy]

first they spear headed it and now they single-handedly invented it on their own. Nice.

[Mikewarrior]

first they spear headed it and now they single-handedly invented it on their own. Nice.

No... you got it wrong. Sony first invented Blu-Ray, then with the help of others got the ball rolling so that SONY can get the support... But don't fool yourself into thinking those other companies don't pay Sony royalties for Blu-Ray sales.

[big isy]

How can they pay Sony royalties if they're all part of the same Blu-ray organisation? Even if they did, why the heck would they carry on using Blu-ray? It makes no sense.

[Mikewarrior]

How can they pay Sony royalties if they're all part of the same Blu-ray organisation? Even if they did, why the heck would they carry on using Blu-ray? It makes no sense.

So you are saying by Sony inventing something... They don't make the largest % of it's sales?

They would carry on using Blu-Ray becaue they still make a small % also (Sony needed their support also), but to think it's anything like it's inventor, is assinaine... with a huge lack of common sense.

[big isy]

But Sony didn't invent Blu-ray, your first post even says that they 'spear-headed' the entire proceedings meaning it was only with the collective brains in the various companies that Blu-ray came into existence. ALthough, even f Sony merely spear headed the entire arrangement then they still would get the higher percentage.

And wouldn't those using Blu-ray make a greater profit on HD-DVD given the whole alleged royalties issue? And I'm glad you think I lack common sense, my purpose in life is complete. lol

[Mikewarrior]

But Sony didn't invent Blu-ray, your first post even says that they 'spear-headed' the entire proceedings meaning it was only with the collective brains in the various companies that Blu-ray came into existence. ALthough, even f Sony merely spear headed the entire arrangement then they still would get the higher percentage.

And wouldn't those using Blu-ray make a greater profit on HD-DVD given the whole alleged royalties issue? And I'm glad you think I lack common sense, my purpose in life is complete. lol

First, I'm not saying you... I'm saying anyone who thinks that Sony doesn't get the higher % does lack... U'no what I'm saying?

Anyways, Yes... Sony spearheaded the whole founders thing to get their support and to outsourse the tech to other hardware makers... And Sony did invent Blu-Ray.

[Sirharper]

Its funny 'cause Crackdown has a couple of Sony produced tracks. :lol:

Thats a little funny. Not all that out of line though, MS used Mac's to make 360 and various photos of their facilities have shown Sony displays being used.

I'm sure Sony uses Windows so not a biggie really.

[big isy]

oh wait, that's linux :lol:

[Sirharper]

Sigh.

Sony does not own or even control BluRay. The head of the BluRay consortium (the independent owner of BluRay) is from Samsung.

Consequently, the first BluRay players to be sold were Samsung products. Furthermore it is important to note that Samsung is the official HD partner of...who else...Xbox 360.

I am supporting BluRay for a few reasons including capacity, studio support, Apple being a lead in development, and superior technology.

Mike, your bias makes you seriously ill-informed.

[Sirharper]

If Sony did make more money on BluRay it would only be because of software (movie) sales. We all know they are losing a boatload of money per unit on PS3's drive.

Samsung is likely the only ones making money on BluRay hardware. LG should be next with their upcoming combo player.