Official Software & Hardware for Febuary in U.S.

[Mikewarrior]

Official software

360 CRACKDOWN 427K
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE 371K
NDS DIDDY KONG RACING 262K
WII LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS 130K
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR 130K
360 GEARS OF WAR 119K
360 MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2K7 113K
360 LOST PLANET: EXTREME CONDITION 111K
WII WARIOWARE: SMOOTH MOVES 109K
360 NBA STREET HOMECOURT 102k

Crackdown came out on Feb 20th too guys. Just had 9 days to pull those numbers. Amazing

Official Hardware

Wii 335,324
Xbox 360 228,225
PlayStation 3 127,321

http://www.vgcharts.org/forum/thread.php?id=759

Sony is getting destroyed 4 months after launch and they keep spinning it by saying they need to restock the stores!

But then there is this link = http://www.vgcharts.org/news/news.php?id=111

Did I just prove something... Yes, I know I did.

[big isy]

The news article doesn't take the number of consoles shipped to Europe and other regions into consideration. You've proven nothing other than the 360 is currently selling more than the PS3 by 100,000 units approx. in the US. Now do the Japanese numbers.

[Mikewarrior]

The news article doesn't take the number of consoles shipped to Europe and other regions into consideration. You've proven nothing other than the 360 is currently selling more than the PS3 by 100,000 units approx. in the US. Now do the Japanese numbers.

I am not Japanese and they are 3rd on importance... U.S. is #1 for sales, and this is of the MOST importance.

[big isy]

lol, just as I thought.

[Mikewarrior]

lol, just as I thought.

It still doesn't outsell the 360 in the U.S. even with Japan's sales... What do you got to say now?

[big isy]

\by how much?

[Mikewarrior]

\by how much?

Cheesemeister at the NeoGAF Forums highlights the Japan game hardware sales for the week February 19 to 25. The data, coming from Japanese game market analyzers Media Create, reports the following console and handheld sales totals for the week ending February 25:

DS: 136,260
PSP: 100,210
Wii: 78,506
PS3: 19,315
360: 4,183

They go by weeks sold... So if you times that PS3 number by 4 weeks, it comes to a little under 80k units sold... PS3 would be over 30k off counting Japan & U.S. sales just against 360's U.S. numbers.

[big isy]

I just went through it and worked out theres an 800,000 unit difference between the PS3 and 360 (not counting consoles sold prior to PS3 launch in Nov).
Thats a lot. But since you were quick to point out the 360's hardware dificulties when it launched, I think its only fair that we take the PS3's stock shortage when it launched into account. The 360 would still be beating it even with the stock shortages by around 200,000 units.

For a console that's had a year to gather its bearings, that's not a whole lot.

[big isy]

Cheesemeister at the NeoGAF Forums highlights the Japan game hardware sales for the week February 19 to 25. The data, coming from Japanese game market analyzers Media Create, reports the following console and handheld sales totals for the week ending February 25:

DS: 136,260
PSP: 100,210
Wii: 78,506
PS3: 19,315
360: 4,183

They go by weeks sold... So if you times that PS3 number by 4 weeks, it comes to a little under 80k units sold... PS3 would be over 30k off counting Japan & U.S. sales just against 360's U.S. numbers.

you got it wrong, the 360 is selling way more. Looks like I just proved your point ;)

I honestly expected that though. I mean the 360 has had a longer run and people know what to expect.

[Mikewarrior]

I just went through it and worked out theres an 800,000 unit difference between the PS3 and 360 (not counting consoles sold prior to PS3 launch in Nov).
Thats a lot. But since you were quick to point out the 360's hardware dificulties when it launched, I think its only fair that we take the PS3's stock shortage when it launched into account. The 360 would still be beating it even with the stock shortages by around 200,000 units.

For a console that's had a year to gather its bearings, that's not a whole lot.

But you are not counting the year of sales the 360 had prior... you are counting after the PS3 launch. The 360 is outselling the PS3 during/after it‘s launch by hundreds of thousands of units, and there never was a shortage of PS3's.

[big isy]

I thought there was a huge shortage of PS3's hence the meagre 80,000 units to Japan and something like 200,000 for the US. Even with the shortage the 360 has a lead of 200,000 thousand (estimate).
And technically, it would be unfair to include the consoles sold prior to the PS3 launching. I want to know how much each of them sold during the same period of time. The 360 came out on top, I only mention the year its had as that affects the sale of the console. more games and gamers are more familiar with it.

[Mikewarrior]

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[DeaconBlade]

it's pretty interesting about Crackdown. are these NPD #'s? if so, i'll have to shoot an email to Dave asking what's up with my usual email :lol:

[Mikewarrior]

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/544/npdpy4.jpg

[DeaconBlade]

yes they are NPD...emailing Dave now :lol:

[big isy]

lol, and you wonder why we call you a fanboy? :rolleyes:

[Mikewarrior]

lol, and you wonder why we call you a fanboy? :rolleyes:

I just posted it for a laugh.

[Mikewarrior]

February totals for Japan + US + Canada:

Wii 660k
360 259k
PS3 219k

[Mikewarrior]

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[big isy]

lol, now thats funny

edit:
Wii 660k
360 259k
PS3 219k

Is that the actual release?! 40,000 is not a whole lot when you look at the ginormous leap between the Wii and all others.

[Mikewarrior]

lol, now thats funny

edit:
Wii 660k
360 259k
PS3 219k

Is that the actual release?! 40,000 is not a whole lot when you look at the ginormous leap between the Wii and all others.

Well the Wii is hot on people's minds & cheaper. Japan is where the Wii is doing damage to Sony's PS3 homeland console.

[Mikewarrior]

LOL, someone said this = This really should make no difference for PS3 fans. It still has a ton of games announced for it. The only difference is that some of them may no longer be exclusive.

[big isy]

The Wii has won, I mean, how the heck could they sell so many consoles, and portable machines in one month?! They're not human I tells ya!

Back to sanity, its more the motion sensing controller than the price although I'd be an idiot to think the price had nothing to do with it.

[big isy]

LOL, someone said this = This really should make no difference for PS3 fans. It still has a ton of games announced for it. The only difference is that some of them may no longer be exclusive.

who? It wasn't me was it? Although I do agree that PS3 fans (not fanboys :lol: ) shouldn't care as all that matters is whether they like the machine.

[Mikewarrior]

The Wii has won, I mean, how the heck could they sell so many consoles, and portable machines in one month?! They're not human I tells ya!

Back to sanity, its more the motion sensing controller than the price although I'd be an idiot to think the price had nothing to do with it.

Now I just wonder if Microsoft will drop the price.

[Mikewarrior]

who? It wasn't me was it? Although I do agree that PS3 fans (not fanboys :lol: ) shouldn't care as all that matters is whether they like the machine.

Well people think exclusives as a incentive to buy a console.

[big isy]

Now I just wonder if Microsoft will drop the price.

It would be better to drop the price later in the year after the big hitters have released. Unless the synch the price drop with a major game release which would definitely shift more units.

[Sirharper]

Lots of stores don't have units to sell. End of story.

[Sirharper]

Well the Wii is hot on people's minds & cheaper. Japan is where the Wii is doing damage to Sony's PS3 homeland console.


Yeah, it's Nintendo's homeland also.

[DJSteel]

lmfao.. 100,000 units in the grand scheme of things adding in the fact that they've been around a year longer is not that huge...

[Sirharper]

lol...yeah.

Now if the Sony ship really was sunk they would lose March too.

[UNSCleric]

Crackdown sold nearly a half million in 7 days, since it actually came out 2/21, very nice.

[Sirharper]

Too bad many if not most people admitted buying it for the Halo3 beta. After a week of play it was pretty much finished.

[DJSteel]

i love trying to get these achievements...

[Mikewarrior]

lol...yeah.

Now if the Sony ship really was sunk they would lose March too.

No, they will win that month (Worldwide) due to Europe's launch... But I don't expect them to top 360's sales for very long.

[Mikewarrior]

lmfao.. 100,000 units in the grand scheme of things adding in the fact that they've been around a year longer is not that huge...

WTF... the 360 sold more than 100,000 units than the PS3 in the month of February in the U.S... No one is counting the year longer sales. Another thing... Tell me when a year older competing console outsold a newly launched competing console in the same Gen it's first 4 months in a row?

Launch sytems always sell more than their same Gen enemies... But not with the PS3.

[big isy]

or the xbox it seems
link (http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=PS2&name2=XB&type=0&align=1)

[Mikewarrior]

or the xbox it seems
link (http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=PS2&name2=XB&type=0&align=1)

Let me clarify... I was talking about the consoles makers who are not dying or who are not newcomers. Of course a newcomer is going to lose to an established brand.

Many doubted Microsoft when the Xbox came out and many grew tired of Nintendo before the Gamecube... Sony shouldn't be in that same boat, or should they?

[big isy]

So explain the psone's success seeing as it was a newcomer to the inddustry up against two gaming giants.

[Sirharper]

No, they will win that month (Worldwide) due to Europe's launch... But I don't expect them to top 360's sales for very long.


Nonsense.

Expect them to progressively gain ground and eventually (2009) overtake 360.

[Mikewarrior]

Nonsense.

Expect them to progressively gain ground and eventually (2009) overtake 360.

We will see... I'll bet you the first to get to the $199.99 price point between Sony & Microsoft will win... Majority of the Casuals don't buy $600 or even $400 game systems.

I'll bet you that the 360 is the first (Out of Sony & Microsoft) to hit $199.99

[big isy]

So explain the psone's success seeing as it was a newcomer to the inddustry up against two gaming giants.

bump, in case you missed it.

[Sirharper]

We will see... I'll bet you the first to get to the $199.99 price point between Sony & Microsoft will win... Majority of the Casuals don't buy $600 or even $400 game systems.

I'll bet you that the 360 is the first (Out of Sony & Microsoft) to hit $199.99

I always said that even the $400 dollar 360 was too much money for most to pay. Thats why a year and a half in and it still has sold only about 1/3 as many as the original.

[Mikewarrior]

bump, in case you missed it.

Well I remember... Do you? The PsONE had a reasonable price for a CD-based system at the time compared to the 3DO & other add-ons... The Saturn was $400 and weaker & Nintendo's 64 was cartrige based... While it was a good price for the system ($199.99) the games were few & far between at $60 & $70 a pop.

That's mostly why.

[Mikewarrior]

I always said that even the $400 dollar 360 was too much money for most to pay. Thats why a year and a half in and it still has sold only about 1/3 as many as the original.

What are you talking about... Didn't Microsoft reach 10 million faster with the 360- than with the Xbox?

[DJSteel]

I'll bet you that the 360 is the first (Out of Sony & Microsoft) to hit $199.99

well of course..they were the first to release...

[Sirharper]

well of course..they were the first to release...

Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner!

Xbox launched as a new and unknown product after PS2 was already established. 360 on the other hand launched as an update to a product that has some fanbase already. Although where are the other 17 million Xbox users that have chosen not to buy a 360 so far?

[Mikewarrior]

well of course..they were the first to release...

Your best post... Also, at $400... It will be a lot easier to hit $199.99 than a $600 system also.

[Sirharper]

Your best post... Also, at $400... It will be a lot easier to hit $199.99 than a $600 system also.


Everything is more expensive this generation so I wouldn't count on a $199 price tag until the real-next-generation arrives.

[Sirharper]

Anybody stop to realize that consoles totally go against the entire faster/better/cheaper law of electronic enonomics?

[Mikewarrior]

Everything is more expensive this generation so I wouldn't count on a $199 price tag until the real-next-generation arrives.

What are you talking about... What do you think Microsoft envisioned with the CORE?

[Sirharper]

I think they envisioned selling a stripped down unit to get more units out for launch and also to make more $$$ buy forcing those user to add the parts seperately at a greater profit.

Didn't you make a thread suggesting the Core was going away? What point are you trying to make? Which direction are you going?

[Mikewarrior]

I think they envisioned selling a stripped down unit to get more units out for launch and also to make more $$$ buy forcing those user to add the parts seperately at a greater profit.

Didn't you make a thread suggesting the Core was going away? What point are you trying to make? Which direction are you going?

No, the CORE isn't there to screw people... It's to give those who don't want to pay $400 & don't care about online/wireless a choice. it's also a system that Microsoft can lower to hit that $199.99 sweet spot.

That thread about the CORE being phased out is just a possibility... No fact.

[big isy]

Well I remember... Do you? The PsONE had a reasonable price for a CD-based system at the time compared to the 3DO & other add-ons... The Saturn was $400 and weaker & Nintendo's 64 was cartrige based... While it was a good price for the system ($199.99) the games were few & far between at $60 & $70 a pop.

That's mostly why.

The Xbox was proven to be the most advanced above the GC and PS2 yet it sold less than the PS2.

[Mikewarrior]

The Xbox was proven to be the most advanced above the GC and PS2 yet it sold less than the PS2.

Yeah, hard to believe, huh? I'll always buy the system that offers the best tech for the games... That's why I bought the 360. History also shows that the more expensive more powerful NEO-GEO system couldn't compare in sales to the SNES & Genesis. The PS3 is more expensive, but not more powerful for games in the REAL world, with real world gaming development situations... Only theoretical.

[DJSteel]

Yeah, hard to believe, huh? I'll always buy the system that offers the best tech for the games... That's why I bought the 360. History also shows that the more expensive more powerful NEO-GEO system couldn't compare in sales to the SNES & Genesis. The PS3 is more expensive, but not more powerful for games in the REAL world, with real world gaming development situations... Only theoretical.


NEO GEO, Dreamcast, etc were arcade consoles..that's it..that is why they were so expensive, atleast the NEO GEO..

[Mikewarrior]

U.S. sales since PS3 launch:

PS3 = 1,061,000

360 = 2,162,000

Japan sales since PS3 launch

PS3 = 752,398

360 = 138,813

Totals:

PS3 = 1,813,398

360 = 2,300,813

Now we need European numbers

[DJSteel]

i figured it be more..the way people talk

[Mikewarrior]

i figured it be more..the way people talk

Well having the 360 doubling up PS3 sales in the U.S. during PS3's first 4-months after launch is an amazing thing when you consider the size belief of the PS2/Sony fan user-base.

Also, one thing we have overlooked with this console sales talk is the SOFTWARE sales that are actually more important for developers to be content developing exclusives, or games at all for such platform.

360 CRACKDOWN 427K
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE 371K
NDS DIDDY KONG RACING 262K
WII LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS 130K
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR 130K
360 GEARS OF WAR 119K
360 MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2K7 113K
360 LOST PLANET: EXTREME CONDITION 111K
WII WARIOWARE: SMOOTH MOVES 109K
360 NBA STREET HOMECOURT 102k
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#32) PS3 VIRTUA FIGHTER 5 53k

* Source: The NPD Group

Virtua Fighter 5 was released for PlayStation 3 on February 20, 2007 and only sold 53k units to a system to has sold a little over 1 Million systems.

What are people buying the PS3 for you ask... Well, tech heads are buying it for a cheap Blu-Ray player first, not really caring about the games. = That spells big trouble for Sony & future exclusives for the system, or possibly even not very many games ported to that system at all.