Why is gaming such a feud?

[blazsox]

It's odd, every forums website I go to, people treat gaming systems as if they were their wives or something. I am more than happy to allow people to defend their country, to defend their religious beliefs, and heck even defend their sexual orientation even though I am anti-homosexual in almost every single way (just ask Isy about it).

But to defend a gaming system that does nothing more than to nurture your need for a hobby, well, its just plain silly. Whatever happened to the concept you get what you paid for, or how about, you like what you like.

Isy for instance, he likes being a multi-platform gamer. I would know, I've known him for a couple of years now (not personally). The man enjoys mixing it up with different systems every now and then, and at one point during the wait for the 360 the man wouldnt stop buying games.

I am the exact same way. I cannot stick with one system. I wanted to this generation to save costs, but 4 months into competition I find myself with a PS3 and 360. And you know what, despite me spending over $3000 right now in 16 months for gaming alone - I dont regret it (I'm throwing in my HDTV purchase as well). I go to college and work full time, so with what free time I do have I spend on games. I dont spend it on forums debating which system is better, or which system will come out on top (since predicting the future has yet to be.....well realistic). I spend the time actually playing the games and instead of debating their "greatness" - I keep playing.

Now I can understand, you may hype a game for months and come out disappointed. That was me and Halo 2 - I was thoroughly disappointed in the multiplayer aspect. But this is what you do to help out that disappointed. Instead of logging on to forums for hours and saying how much the game "sucks" and is "crap" - you instead either return the game for another, trade it in for another, sell it on the internet for money, or simply hush up and live with it. Now you are entitled to your opinion on a game - but thats exactly what it is - your opinion. In means nothing, or at least it should mean very little to one another. Everyone has different tastes. For example, GameSpot gave a low score to Small Arms for the XBLA. I personally think Small Arms is my favorite XBLA title, I'd give it a solid 8. My opinion on the GS reviewer's opinion differ.

As for this whole console war (now question, in order for it to be a war, didnt someone actually have to proclaim war on someone else? I mean Bush did it for Iraq - but since when the did the Sony government proclaim war on its competitors? Same with MS and Nintendo) - this "war" is a very good thing for the consumer. If it wasnt for competition, would we get the games we have today? Probably not. I cant simply say no because I cant predict what could have been. A consumer loves competition - because it gives them more than one choice. Look at monopolies - do they have good customer feedback? For the most part no. We as in the consumers should worry what game to buy next - not which system is "better?"

What makes a system better anyways? Is it the graphics chip? Is it the RAM? The Game library? What classifies which system is better? Every system differs on what it brings to the table. MS brings a great online service, Sony brings a variety of games (in terms of genre), Nintendo brings innovation. And what about Nintendo? Why are they never mentioned in this “war?” They are afterall a competitor. Sure, their system is technically inferior to that of the 360 and PS3 – but since when was Nintendo about high specs? Nintendo emphases where it once mattered most in the gaming industry – innovation. And with the Wii they have certainly brung innovation to a whole new level. Instead of bringing to the table games that were innovative by themselves, they created a system in which human interaction is key. My hat goes off to Nintendo. For one thing they have kept quiet in this so called “war.” You do not see them wasting our valued time in press events explaining how their product is better than the competitor like that of MS and Sony – but instead they show you what you are going to get within a few months on their system. Kudos Nintendo.

Freedom of choice is a great thing. Sure it has its limits sometimes on what exactly classifies a choice, but it certainly gives enough freedom. You can choose between ketchup and mustard on a hot dog; you can choose between sheep skin and latex on the type of condom you wear, you can choose between boxers and briefs for your preference of undergarments. So why is it that it seems you are not allowed to make a choice between getting a 360, PS3, or Wii? Why is it harder for people to not criticize those who bought a 360 and a PS3? Are we not allowed this freedom of choice anymore?

I chose to buy a PS3. But why blazsox why? WHY DID YOU WASTE YOUR MONEY? Well here is the thing, I did not waste my money. To waste is to dispose. Only an idiot would waste money. To throw away money, well, that’s just idiotic. That could’ve gone towards your 360, or your PS3, or your Wii. I chose to buy a PS3 to go alongside my 360 because I like to game. I like playing certain games I cant get on other systems. For instance, I love a lot of Sony’s first party titles. I love the Ratchet and Clank franchise, I loved Killzone’s debut from Guerrilla, I liked The Getaway from Team Soho (I believe they are Studio Liverpool now), and I am an Icognito nut (Twisted Metal anyone?).

But I also enjoy Halo, RalliSport, Crimson Skies, MechAssault, and a lot more franchises that can only be found on Microsoft’s platform. My only regret is that I don’t have a Wii. I would love to own one, and someday I hope to. God knows I cant go without my fix of Mario Tennis.

To constantly flame each other over personal preferences is simply….well, useless. You cant change people’s preferences. As much as I want to turn every gay man straight, I cant. So why is it such a sin to hear someone wanting a PS3 when you have the 360, or someone wanting a Wii when you think it’s a funny word for penis.

People people people, these are gaming systems. They don’t harm life, nor do they extend it. They simply give you something to do before you die. Yes, that’s all they are. It passes time until your death. Heck, I have been spending a lot of money the past two years. Granted I work my ass off for the cash – but I buy what I want, when I can afford it. Why? Because we all die eventually. So why should I worry about saving up all my paychecks when I wont last forever. Sure I keep a savings (usually $3000 is my minimum), but damnt if I have some spare cash I will spend it. Whether it be a game, movie, TV, or a one way ticket down to Australia for some kangaroo action – I will buy what I want, when I want, and for the reason I want.

Bottomline people, all gaming systems simply are, are things to do before you die. These competitors all have the same goal – to have you die happy.

I mean do you really want to walk up to a coffin to somebody who has a frown? I surely don’t – it only makes the corpse scarier.

[Mikewarrior]

That's your opinion... I don't have to respect it.

Yes, I have my reasons.

[big isy]

I agree, gaming is taken far too seriously these days. People need to chill out and just enjoy what they have, if they can't do that then they should find another hobby.

[big isy]

That's your opinion... I don't have to respect it.

Yes, I have my reasons.

I'm guessing you don't respect his opinion because it differs from yours :rolleyes:

[Mikewarrior]

I'm guessing you don't respect his opinion because it differs from yours :rolleyes:

It's because this thread is written because of you & I... and he is also your friend that so happens to own a PS3.

I see through the BS, and I have been gaming for almost 30 years... I care about it more than you know because it was and still is a big part of my fun/entertainment. By people supporting Sony, they learn nothing from their past actions.

I want better competition/Sony remember?

[big isy]

I'm not gonna go through this again, I'm happy with the way things are. Microsoft has some stunning games coming on their system. Sony has some kickass games coming on their system. Nintendo has some superb games coming onto their system. I refuse to choose between them and opt to buy all three for the best gaming experience I can have.

[Mikewarrior]

I'm not gonna go through this again, I'm happy with the way things are. Microsoft has some stunning games coming on their system. Sony has some kickass games coming on their system. Nintendo has some superb games coming onto their system. I refuse to choose between them and opt to buy all three for the best gaming experience I can have.

This is my opinion, just my opinion... Sony better have a lot of kickass games that are not on (Exclusive) or not better on the 360.

Or it is $600 spent for very little.

[big isy]

I appreciate your concerns, I love you too sweetie ;) :lol:
I'm more than happy with the games on it, $600 very well spent IMO.

[Mikewarrior]

I appreciate your concerns, I love you too sweetie ;) :lol:
I'm more than happy with the games on it, $600 very well spent IMO.

What the Hell... You haven't even played any of them yet... and how many great exclusive PS3 games are out now to justify paying $600+?

[big isy]

I thought I made it clear when I said in another thread, "I like the look of the games".
Thats basically what I went with when I bought the 360 and Wii.
And I can't really justify anything to you as you're not interested in buying the PS3, I can only say that I'm happy with the fact that I'll have Motorstorm, Resistance and Virtua Tennis 3 on day one of the consoles release, then there's the many PS2 games I've never played and would like to now.

[Mikewarrior]

I can only say that I'm happy with the fact that I'll have Motorstorm, Resistance and Virtua Tennis 3 on day one of the consoles release, then there's the many PS2 games I've never played and would like to now.

I would suggest buying a PS2 for PS2 games then... Because Sony's is doing PS2 software emulation for the PS3. Many of the great/known PS2 games may not play on the PS3.

Virtua Tennis 3 is said to be better on the 360, and while Sony was touting the PS3 as being this 1080P monster PC replacing machine... VT3 doesn't do native 1080P on the PS3 like it does on the 360. Oh, and the 360 version has online, while the PS3 version does not.

So you have Resistance & Motorstorm... two known good exclusive launch games for you in Europe. Good for you, but the logic in me thinks two games priced at $60 here ($120) hardly makes it worth to buy a $600+ system now.

[big isy]

You're absolutely right. I should've just listened to you from the start, clearly you know more than I do about what I like and want.

[DeaconBlade]

wow...pretty big summary...nicely written. i agree to some extent about people taking things too seriously...that's how it is i guess. unless there's some monetary incentive, i'd never go so far as to make it a war....right now it's just my preference...my own personal preference and i don't try to feed anyone my ideals or try hard to convince anyone.

some people do though take this thing too seriously...it is only gaming afterall. we're supposed to play and have fun....not cut each other's throat for being an MS or Sony or Nintendo fan :lol:

[Mikewarrior]

You're absolutely right. I should've just listened to you from the start, clearly you know more than I do about what I like and want.

Hey man... Take the info as you will, it's your money. I just hope Sony can learn a lesson from being so very arrogant when there is people willing to support them no matter what they do or say.

[Sirharper]

FANBOISM!

Thats all it breaks down to.

If people would start owning consoles and stop letting consoles own them the gaming world would be a better place.

[Sirharper]

Thank you for this thread BTW. I assure things are being done and an impact has already been felt in attempts to curb this form of social and psychological dysfunction.

Good Karma to you.

[Mikewarrior]

FANBOISM!

Thats all it breaks down to.

If people would start owning consoles and stop letting consoles own them the gaming world would be a better place.

I agree... Too bad there are many more Sony fans than their are anyone else to allow all consoles to have equal developer support... Especially Japanese ones.

I was really hoping for this NEW GEN to be different... Well so far so good with most of them, but SQUARE/KONAMI will not see my support until they give the 360 equal games as they are going to do for the PS3.

[Kinjutsumaru]

Thank you blazsox, well said, I could not have said it better myself. It is really ridiculous and quite asinine to have constant debates and flame wars over video game consoles.

[big isy]

I only debate with people who enjoy telling me what I should like and pipe the same tune over and over. ;)

I appreciate you concerns Mike, but even you gotta admit that someone constantly asking you for a reason as to why you want to buy a product is eventually gonna tire you out.

[Mikewarrior]

I only debate with people who enjoy telling me what I should like and pipe the same tune over and over. ;) - I never told you what you should like (Don't put words in my mouth)... , because it was you who said that you don't like many of the things Sony has said & done. I just wish you gave a reason why you forgive Sony enough to support them , when you said you didn't want to.

I appreciate you concerns Mike, but even you gotta admit that someone constantly asking you for a reason as to why you want to buy a product is eventually gonna tire you out. - It all just seems hypocritical to me.

...

[big isy]

I thought I made it clear in other threads but I don't support any company, I buy the product if it looks like its decent. 360, PS3 and Wii all look exceptional so I'll aim to have all three.
As for forgiving Sony, I like Sony as much as I like Nintendo and Microsoft, I'll let you work out how much I like 'em.

And yes, I'm a hypocrite if it makes you sleep better at night :rolleyes:

[Mikewarrior]

I thought I made it clear in other threads but I don't support any company, I buy the product if it looks like its decent. 360, PS3 and Wii all look exceptional so I'll aim to have all three.
As for forgiving Sony, I like Sony as much as I like Nintendo and Microsoft, I'll let you work out how much I like 'em.

And yes, I'm a hypocrite if it makes you sleep better at night :rolleyes:

Yet it wasn't Microsoft that had a year+ long string of bad news, or not even close to as many LIES. It's just that by buying the PS3 you are in fact supporting those things in Sony who has used BS to sell/hype the PS3, whether you want to admit it or not.

It's hypocritical too me, with you not seeing or admitting that.

[big isy]

Like I said, you buy what you like and leave me to spend my money how I choose. I'm happy with the position I'm in, being able to play all three consoles is something I aimed to do last gen but couldn't, I'm not going to let that chance slip by me this time round.

[blazsox]

Why is it such a big deal for you that Isy wants to spend his money on a PS3? I would understand if it was your money, but damn man, its just a game system. If you think its a mistake for him to buy it - alright thats cool man, thats your opinion and you are entitled to it. Let him make his own mistakes, that is afterall how a person grows up right?

I am not going to get into a debate with you as I have better things to do with my time, but from what I read on you so far you take gaming as if it were life and death.

[Mikewarrior]

Why is it such a big deal for you that Isy wants to spend his money on a PS3? I would understand if it was your money, but damn man, its just a game system. If you think its a mistake for him to buy it - alright thats cool man, thats your opinion and you are entitled to it. Let him make his own mistakes, that is afterall how a person grows up right?

I am not going to get into a debate with you as I have better things to do with my time, but from what I read on you so far you take gaming as if it were life and death.

It's not that he's buying a PS3... It's the things he's said early on and also about respect and how he showed me none. Yet Sony doesn't show anyone respect at all (Yes, even gamers) yet he'll support them by buying the PS3... That is hypocritical if you ask me, and that is why I am replying at his posts that are directed towards me.

[big isy]

wait, I didn't show you respect?! I even reported my own post in to show the mods that I tried ending our argument in a dignified manner. I said I respect your opinion and that you should do the same, not agree with my opinion simply respect it.

[Mikewarrior]

wait, I didn't show you respect?! I even reported my own post in to show the mods that I tried ending our argument in a dignified manner. I said I respect your opinion and that you should do the same, not agree with my opinion simply respect it.

"Ruining the forums" & "idiotic" ring a bell?

[big isy]

calling me a hypocrite and accusing me of not being a gamer if I like the PS3?

[Mikewarrior]

calling me a hypocrite and accusing me of not being a gamer if I like the PS3?

Yes, the hypocrite part came after your so-called respect towards me, but I never said you are not a gamer if you buy the PS3.

[big isy]

respect towards you? here we go,

Indeed it does. I'm not sure we're quite at that point with Sony though. They seem to be getting on okay, even with all the negative press. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

P.S-I gotta say, that was an intense debate, dragged on in the middle but great nonetheless. Touché!
What say we drop this retarded debate now and move on? *offers hand as sign of good faith*

And heres the quote I recall of the PS3 thing, I got it wrong but basically, if I think I'm a gamer then the 360 is for me :rolleyes:
To say that the 360 doesn't have the quality of games like the PS3 is a joke and you know it. And right now for a fact the 360 has more SPORTS/SHOOTERS/ACTION/ADVENTURE/RTS/STRATEGY/ and yes even RPGs than the PS3 has now and upcoming into the future.

So if you call yourself a gamer... The 360 is for a fact the best system for you no doubt about it.

[Cr1ms0n Toxica]

This needs to end now. This is a friendly Xbox 360 Forum and will continue to run that way. So get yourselfs togethor or this gets locked. Thanks
-Regards

[DJSteel]

too bad I missed this..lol..

[big isy]

This needs to end now. This is a friendly Xbox 360 Forum and will continue to run that way. So get yourselfs togethor or this gets locked. Thanks
-Regards

QFT, I'm out.

[DJSteel]

lol big isy.. don't worry kid we all know what a versatile gamer you are... no need to hammer Mikewarrior about it.. he doesn't get it..bottom line..

[big isy]

lol, thats the thing, you, Blaz, deac and anyone else from XGP and Fever know what I'm like. I just gotta keep doing what I do.

[DJSteel]

exactly.. the same things i was trying to get across in XGP.. diversity is bliss..especially in gaming...i don't know about you but the 360 is FLOODED with First person shooters.. and lack in other areas...they need so space their shooters out more and develop more rpgs, make their selections more diverse...

[big isy]

I agree, I guess they're aware of the problem though with some big hitters coming this year that ain't FPS. Mass Effect being the pinnacle.

[Mikewarrior]

lol, thats the thing, you, Blaz, deac and anyone else from XGP and Fever know what I'm like. I just gotta keep doing what I do.

Let me get this off my chest... The ONLY reason I replied to your posts is because they were directed towards me with questions, like why I didn't respect your opinion of wanting a PS3... That opinion, on that subject, I don't have to respect because it has to do with Sony... Anyways, I tried to explain WHY the best way I could... Sorry to fail you in such a way.

[big isy]

Can we just drop it and agree we ain't gonna agree on the issue of PS3's? ;)

[Mikewarrior]

i don't know about you but the 360 is FLOODED with First person shooters.. and lack in other areas...they need so space their shooters out more and develop more rpgs, make their selections more diverse...

Yet, it has more diversity in games now and into the near future out of all the NEW consoles... It's like owning a pool and complaining it's not the sea, but would rather be in a bathtub.

[DJSteel]

you are wrong on that.. the only difference by october between the PS3 and X360 will be the exclusives.. and beyond that the X360 will still lack in platformers, rpgs, and other areas...say what you want about sony, their marketing schemes , and anything else that you hate about them but they will have a great library of games just like ps2...

[Mikewarrior]

you are wrong on that.. the only difference by october between the PS3 and X360 will be the exclusives.. and beyond that the X360 will still lack in platformers, rpgs, and other areas...say what you want about sony, their marketing schemes , and anything else that you hate about them but they will have a great library of games just like ps2...

No they are really losing exclusives left & right, and Microsoft has a developer friendly 360/Dev kits that helps developers make games cheaper than the PS3 versions... More developers will make 360 games because it's #1 RIGHT NOW and will even be after this year.

PS3 Upcoming games = 105
http://www.tothegame.com/gamebrowse.asp?sort=title&letter=all&page=1&sortdir=asc&platform=ps3&category=all&status=upcoming&territory=us&image.x=33&image.y=8

360 Upcoming games = 140
http://www.tothegame.com/gamebrowse.asp?sort=title&letter=all&page=1&sortdir=asc&platform=xb360&category=all&status=upcoming&territory=us&image.x=22&image.y=11

What's really funny is that the 360 has more RPGs NOW... AND listed to come than the PS3.

[DJSteel]

yo put way too much faith in those numbers brother...

[Mikewarrior]

yo put way too much faith in those numbers brother...

Yet, you have nothing... Good way to prove a point dude.

[DJSteel]

dude..lets see in the fall...then make the determination...i guarantee atleast 1/2 - 3/4s of all the titles listed of TBA will be either pushed or cancelled...

[Mikewarrior]

dude..lets see in the fall...then make the determination...i guarantee atleast 1/2 - 3/4s of all the titles listed of TBA will be either pushed or cancelled...

Now you're talking PS3?

Please put some thought into your posts at least... The 360 is #1 and will still be #1 after this year is over... Now think, why would HALF???? To 3/4ths??? of those TBA (To Be Announced, as in DATE) titles be cancelled at all?

You must be a Sony fan to think the way you do.

[DJSteel]

yeah you certainly pegged me..since I own a 360, not a PS3... I said cancelled OR pushed

[Mikewarrior]

yeah you certainly pegged me..since I own a 360, not a PS3... I said cancelled OR pushed

Then if you think HALF or 3/4ths of those TBA 360 game would be canceled OR pushed... Why did you not think the very same for PS3's future TBA games? = That showed the Sony bias I was talking about.

[big isy]

Mike's always gotta have someone to argue against. :lol:
Games have a knack for appearing outta thin air and disappearing without a word. Take LittleBigPlanets on the PS3 for example, that just popped out from no mans land.
Delays are also a common issue unfortunately, many 360 titles have been delayed as have many PS3 titles too.
Mass Effect, Bioshock, Assassins Creed, Halo 3 etc it'd be easier to name the ones that released on time.

[Mikewarrior]

Mike's always gotta have someone to argue against.

Funny how I am the one who is first attacked over a plastic console.... I will stand up to those who do so.

[big isy]

Attacked? Hardly, I simply give my view on the matter. I'm pretty sure I've never posted an initial response in anger or to annoy you. I apologise if I have but I don't recall ever saying your opinion over something is wrong.
Also, I was kidding, the :lol: was supposed to be testament to that.

[DJSteel]

Then if you think HALF or 3/4ths of those TBA 360 game would be canceled OR pushed... Why did you not think the very same for PS3's future TBA games? = That showed the Sony bias I was talking about.


can you read??? i said all titles...

[Mikewarrior]

can you read??? i said all titles...

Then what point are you making... That wouldn't negate the game number advantage the 360 already has and is UPCOMING in future titles.

[DJSteel]

that would make a difference in all the upcoming games for both systems and you can't dictate what will be released because unless you are a dev or work with Xbox then you truly don't know what will or will not be released in the future for either system..

[Mikewarrior]

that would make a difference in all the upcoming games for both systems and you can't dictate what will be released because unless you are a dev or work with Xbox then you truly don't know what will or will not be released in the future for either system..

Lets just say this... The 360 has 100+ titles right now to PS3's 25 and has way more listed games that are known than the PS3. = Fact!

[big isy]

that would make a difference in all the upcoming games for both systems and you can't dictate what will be released because unless you are a dev or work with Xbox then you truly don't know what will or will not be released in the future for either system..


Not true I'm afraid. Sorry DJ but I gotta go with the truth.

EDIT: I should explain. Not even dev know when a title will be canned, take Frame City Killer for example. Heck, devs don't even know when the next title is coming, Shenmue III anyone?

[Mikewarrior]

Heck, devs don't even know when the next title is coming, Shenmue III anyone?

Oh Hell... That better come, oh yeah... THAT BETTER COME!

[big isy]

I feel ashamed to say this, but I sucked at the fork lift driving. Just thought I'd throw it in.

[blazsox]

Definitely Frag Monger Jr.

[DJSteel]

Not true I'm afraid. Sorry DJ but I gotta go with the truth.

EDIT: I should explain. Not even dev know when a title will be canned, take Frame City Killer for example. Heck, devs don't even know when the next title is coming, Shenmue III anyone?

That is why I said you can't point to a website and say the 360 and the PS3 will release all of these titles... by next year.. that is what I said..this tool thinks that all these titles will release

[big isy]

I know, I was being sarcastic when I posted that. It actually completely agrees with what you said and how things really work.

[Mikewarrior]

That is why I said you can't point to a website and say the 360 and the PS3 will release all of these titles... by next year.. that is what I said..this tool thinks that all these titles will release

First of all stop with the name calling before things get ugly... Anyways, my POINT flew over your head... It was the FACT that the 360 does have more games listed (Truth, isn't it?) than the PS3.

I never once mentioned that ALL those games would come out... It was all about what system developers have more games planned to release on... And that is IN FACT the 360.

Doesn't mean you have to like it.

[DJSteel]

First of all stop with the name calling before things get ugly... Anyways, my POINT flew over your head... It was the FACT that the 360 does have more games listed (Truth, isn't it?) than the PS3.

I never once mentioned that ALL those games would come out... It was all about what system developers have more games planned to release on... And that is IN FACT the 360.

Doesn't mean you have to like it.


okay so the xbox 360 has more titles out than the PS3 does right now..so what..it came out a year earlier..

[Mikewarrior]

okay so the xbox 360 has more titles out than the PS3 does right now..so what..it came out a year earlier..

It has many more as listed to come also.

[DJSteel]

but like I said before u idiot.. you can't count those because YOU don't KNOW if they will release or when they'll release...quit being a hater...and quit picking fight with everyone..

[Mikewarrior]

but like I said before u idiot.. you can't count those because YOU don't KNOW if they will release or when they'll release...quit being a hater...and quit picking fight with everyone..

I'm not picking a fight... Just stating facts that are known as of now... It's you who likes to guess the future with those lists of games.

[blazsox]

Tell me something Mr. Warrior, if you have been gaming for 30+ years, that has to mean your above the age of 30. Isnt it a little....well humorous for a lot of us, but pathetic for you to spend more time on forums "stating fact" that the 360 is "superior" to the PS3 because of what you read on websites?

I used to be like you - I felt I could never be proven wrong (just ask DJ and Isy about all the crap I had to take on XGP). Yeah I sorta got over that and hell I am not even 20. You my friend are long overdue for some growing up. Its a ****ing console. I understand if it may be the only damn pussy you can score, but for christ sake shut up and play the damn games instead of arguing them.

[Souf Centrol]

This was a good read



My :2cents: I don't stand behind any console, at first I was only going to get a PS3 because I played my PS more than my xbox, but when I got a 360 I was happy with my purchase. I'm still going to get a PS3 as soon as some game come out that I must have. As far as the Wii, I'll get one when they get all the classic games

[DJSteel]

This was a good read



My :2cents: I don't stand behind any console, at first I was only going to get a PS3 because I played my PS more than my xbox, but when I got a 360 I was happy with my purchase. I'm still going to get a PS3 as soon as some game come out that I must have. As far as the Wii, I'll get one when they get all the classic games

i agree with you on this.. anyone who can hate consoles when we all are reaping their benefits is ridiculous.... this Mikewarrior guy is a complete joke...

[Mikewarrior]

i agree with you on this.. anyone who can hate consoles when we all are reaping their benefits is ridiculous.... this Mikewarrior guy is a complete joke...

You need to get ****ing clue before I lower myself (To your level) by calling you stupid ass names... I never once said I hated the PS3 = IT'S SONY and I have shown/said my reasons, get it?

[DJSteel]

You need to get ****ing clue before I lower myself (To your level) by calling you stupid ass names... I never once said I hated the PS3 = IT'S SONY and I have shown/said my reasons, get it?

you are a joke..either you stand for your convictions, because every post you put out there tries to shred the PS3, or you are a flip-flop John Kerry Xbox Mark who can't decide what the hell you want...

[Sirharper]

you are a joke..either you stand for your convictions, because every post you put out there tries to shred the PS3, or you are a flip-flop John Kerry Xbox Mark who can't decide what the hell you want...

Actually I would have called him a Bush Administration style spin-doctor but however you'd like to view it. ;)

[DJSteel]

lol..I didn't want to go that low..

[Mikewarrior]

Tell me something Mr. Warrior, if you have been gaming for 30+ years, that has to mean your above the age of 30. Isnt it a little....well humorous for a lot of us, but pathetic for you to spend more time on forums "stating fact" that the 360 is "superior" to the PS3 because of what you read on websites? = I don't need websites to prove the 360 is a better gaming console... I can see it with my own eyes. PS3 games are STILL no where near Kameo effects/graphic fidelity, or the amount of characters on screen. A year later & more costly, but yet weaker for games is the joke that = Sony. It's funny, I do this for the fun of it, getting you guys riled up over some stupid game consoles and what always happens is that YOU GUYS start the name calling/hatred towards me over game consoles and what I have to say about them.

I used to be like you - I felt I could never be proven wrong (just ask DJ and Isy about all the crap I had to take on XGP). Yeah I sorta got over that and hell I am not even 20. You my friend are long overdue for some growing up. Its a ****ing console. I understand if it may be the only damn pussy you can score, but for christ sake shut up and play the damn games instead of arguing them. = See, it's when people do the shit like you do is what sets me off... I do this for fun, yet you take it personal to talk your shit about me... What's worse, a person (Me) who shows their dislike towards a company and gives his reasons, or a person (YOU) who is hating on that person, and shows an immature attitude when he directly posts insults?

I'll be waiting for an answer?

[Mikewarrior]

you are a joke..either you stand for your convictions, because every post you put out there tries to shred the PS3, or you are a flip-flop John Kerry Xbox Mark who can't decide what the hell you want...

Ignorance is bliss...I never flipped-Flopped. I say it like I see it, or what I know for a fact... It's you who takes what I say ignorantly.

Keep calling me names, that always helps.

[big isy]

= I don't need websites to prove the 360 is a better gaming console... I can see it with my own eyes. PS3 games are STILL no where near Kameo effects/graphic fidelity, or the amount of characters on screen. A year later & more costly, but yet weaker for games is the joke that = Sony. It's funny, I do this for the fun of it, getting you guys riled up over some stupid game consoles and what always happens is that YOU GUYS start the name calling/hatred towards me over game consoles and what I have to say about them.

In the same vein as I can see the PS3 is better machine with my own eyes? (for the sake of argument) :rolleyes:
The 360 being better is subjective, I'm sure you said that right? You may like the games on the 360, but that doesn't dictate what I like.

And stop calling folks ignorant and they may stop calling you names.

[Mikewarrior]

And stop calling folks ignorant and they may stop calling you names.

What goes around comes around... They start attacking me, calling me names... I say it like I see it.

[big isy]

I've seen you throw the first stone by calling folks ignorant, not just a single member either.
So far I've noticed you calling me, Blaz, Sirharper and DJsteel ignorant and on one occasion I remember you labelling me as being arrogant.

[Mikewarrior]

I've seen you throw the first stone by calling folks ignorant, not just a single member either.
So far I've noticed you calling me, Blaz, Sirharper and DJsteel ignorant and on one occasion I remember you labelling me as being arrogant.

Yes, and they all came after the attack from you guys... You first said an insult towards me, "ruining the forum" & "idiocy" directed towards me if I remember correctly.

[big isy]

Because you were doing just that. By questioning my decision to purchase a PS3 and calling anyone who prefers that console over the 360 'not a gamer'. I only called your actions idiotic because you refused to respect my opinion. I never asked for you to accept it, simply respect it. How can you want to be part of a community if you can't respect the varying opinions of said community?

[Mikewarrior]

Because you were doing just that. By questioning my decision to purchase a PS3 and calling anyone who prefers that console over the 360 'not a gamer'. I only called your actions idiotic because you refused to respect my opinion. I never asked for you to accept it, simply respect it. How can you want to be part of a community if you can't respect the varying opinions of said community?

First, I don't have to respect an opinion... Just like you guys don't respect mine, Hell, you don't even respect it when I prove it about the things that Sony has said & done. Anyways, people have many opinions but that doesn't mean I have to respect it.

No matter what you do or say... It can't be forced upon me by YOU!

Also, I questioned you because some of the things you said were hypocritical... Remember? Like I don't want to support Sony, but "I WANT" a PS3?

[big isy]

Hows that hypocritical?! I like the PS3 but don't like Sony, I like the 360 but can't stand Microsoft.
I won't buy a console to support that company, I'll buy it to enjoy what it has to offer and thats it. I could care less about the company behind it.

And respecting opinions is something that every mature individual has to do, I disagree with Christianity but I still respect it, I disagree with someone saying 'Sony is bad news for the gaming world therefore we all shouldn't buy the PS3' but I still respect that decision. Just because you don't accept something doesn't mean you can't respect it, unless its ethically and morally wrong I can't see why anyone would disrespect anyone else's opinion.

[Mikewarrior]

Hows that hypocritical?! I like the PS3 but don't like Sony, I like the 360 but can't stand Microsoft.
I won't buy a console to support that company, I'll buy it to enjoy what it has to offer and thats it. I could care less about the company behind it.

And respecting opinions is something that every mature individual has to do, I disagree with Christianity but I still respect it, I disagree with someone saying 'Sony is bad news for the gaming world therefore we all shouldn't buy the PS3' but I still respect that decision. Just because you don't accept something doesn't mean you can't respect it, unless its ethically and morally wrong I can't see why anyone would disrespect anyone else's opinion.

Respect is a earned thing, not a givin.

And even though you say you don't support the company you dislike... You really do by buying their product, even if you don't want to admit it, and that is what makes you hypocritical.

[big isy]

Hypocritical is something someone does on purpose, I don't actively want to support any of these companies but I don't really have a choice if I want to game. Therefore, I can't be conceived as being hypocritical as I don't purposefully buy the PS3 for the sole reason that I want to support Sony.

Respect is also something a civil community needs. Without respect chaos would ensue, hence the 'you're ruining the forums' remark.

[Mikewarrior]

Hypocritical is something someone does on purpose, I don't actively want to support any of these companies but I don't really have a choice if I want to game. Therefore, I can't be conceived as being hypocritical as I don't purposefully buy the PS3 for the sole reason that I want to support Sony. = Are you putting "I WANT" in front of moral beliefs? = That's something I don't do, or respect.

Respect is also something a civil community needs. Without respect chaos would ensue, hence the 'you're ruining the forums' remark. = No, chaos ensues when people don't hold a HUMAN higher than a console, and start calling that human names. I will never respect an opinion of "I WANT" so I'll buy into whatever company I disagree with.

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[big isy]

Let me get this straight. You'll never buy something you want if the company that created that product lied to you? Bearing in mind that all companies do this, aren't YOU being the hypocritical one? (I'm using your 'definition' of hypocrite here).

You're calling the fact that Sony 'lied' to its consumers immoral yet you fail to see that Microsoft has done acts just as immoral like the whole licensing schools that use Linux.

[Mikewarrior]

Let me get this straight. You'll never buy something you want if the company that created that product lied to you? Bearing in mind that all companies do this, aren't YOU being the hypocritical one? (I'm using your 'definition' of hypocrite here). - I already told you... The lesser of the two evils, remember? Plus it's the way that Sony lies, doesn't show any respect to gamers at all and is very arrogant at the same time. Also the fact that Microsoft is here in the U.S./supports western developers much more than Sony's consoles do. I have very good reasons why I support Microsoft.

You're calling the fact that Sony 'lied' to its consumers immoral yet you fail to see that Microsoft has done acts just as immoral like the whole licensing schools that use Linux. - What's immoral about that?

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[big isy]

So you support Microsoft because its in the US? I'm saying nothing to that.

The Linux issue is immoral because its an OS thats not created by MS and yet MS still charge schools for licenses, how can you not call that immoral?!

[Mikewarrior]

So you support Microsoft because its in the US? I'm saying nothing to that. - I said, I have MANY reasons.

The Linux issue is immoral because its an OS thats not created by MS and yet MS still charge schools for licenses, how can you not call that immoral?! - Can you give me a link please?

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[big isy]

I read it on teletext so nope, but you could try and google it and see what you find.

You're right, it was unfair of me to just pick one reason for you liking Microsoft. But the fact still remains that you're supporting a company that is still 'evil' (lesser of two evils). Why support any of them? Surely supporting one evil would cause it to overpower the other? Would you then start supporting the other 'evil'?

[Mikewarrior]

I read it on teletext so nope, but you could try and google it and see what you find.

You're right, it was unfair of me to just pick one reason for you liking Microsoft. But the fact still remains that you're supporting a company that is still 'evil' (lesser of two evils). Why support any of them? Surely supporting one evil would cause it to overpower the other? Would you then start supporting the other 'evil'?

Yes, if they were to show the same arrogance/lies/stupid neglect as Sony has been doing to gaming.

[big isy]

Why do you even support Microsoft as you even said they are a 'lesser evil'? Why not go with Nintendo? They've done nothing but given the fans what they wanted and I can't see how they're 'evil' by today's standard.