Altered Achievement/GamerScore Rules

[UNSCleric]

Think you 100%'d a certain game? Maybe not!

With the news of Microsoft possibly giving out actual prizes for certain achievements, it looks like they're tidying up the achievements system and making sure that even small inconsistencies that have existed since the launch are stopped.

I don’t think anyone could have predicted the popularity of Gamerscore and Achievements on Xbox 360. For me, it has changed the way I play games. No longer is it about just trying to beat the game from beginning to end; I now find myself wanting to go back and unlock as many of these little achievements as possible. I love how it chronicles my gaming history, by game, by achievement and by date. I can always go on Xbox Live or on Xbox.com to look at my friends and see their history as well, or what they most recently unlocked. We have heard some wild stories among groups of friends who constantly try to one-up their buddies and the back and forth Gamerscore battles.

We also have let developers run wild with how they want to implement Gamerscore and Achievements into their games. This has produced some great things like the “Pacifism” Achievement from Geometry Wars, the “Zen and the Art of Reloading” from Gears of War, the “Six Degrees of Small Arms” and innovative Achievements in Crackdown like the “Body Juggler."

With the ever increasing craze and excitement around Gamerscore and Achievements, we have recently worked with our publishing partners to implement some new policies for new games coming out. Here are the basic rules:

1. All regular disc-based games MUST have 1,000 Gamerscore in the base game. This means that any consumer who buys a retail game will have the opportunity to unlock the full 1,000 Gamerscore without having to pay for any add-on content. Note that a publisher may decide to deliver a portion of this Gamerscore via add-on content, but the add-on content will always be free to the consumer.

2. Game publishers will have the option to deliver another 250 incremental Gamerscore on top of the 1,000 via add-on content from Marketplace. This add-on content could be either free or paid. So if you complete a game and earn the full 1,000 GS, you could by getting new add-on content earn up to a total of 1,250 points from a game.

3. Xbox Live Arcade games will operate in similar fashion, but given the size of these titles they will allow you to earn up to 200 Gamerscore from every game and up to another 50 points from add-on content.

[Sirharper]

If those are your words then suprisingly I agree with almost all of it.

I am very pleased for the additional 250 points for added content. That means I would start playing Oblivion agian.

[DragoonXGears]

Yeah, When I first hear about achivements, I was glad that there was some type of reward for finishing a game and finding every coin, secret or whatever.

In the past, when I beat the game, that was it. with the achivement system, I go back and try to get some of them.

For example Dead Rising. I beat the game like 10 times, trying for each diffrent achivement.

If they were to add more points to games by downloadable content, they need to have a system of should they charge or give it free by GS.

I say if its more than 250 GS then charge some points ( not a lot ) for the content. If it's under 250 GS then it should be free.

Thanks for starting this thread.

[DeaconBlade]

i guess this is cool.

[Bill 12951]

I love the achievements system. A couple of geniuses are working for Xbox!!!! :)

[Twylyght Myst]

Nice write up cleric. It was imformative, thank you!

I find that if I really like a game achievements don't really affect my gameplay, there are just some games that I find I love to take my time in like Oblivion, I love to wander and complete the side quest, clear out dungeons, etc...

In a way I feel the achievements have taken some of the fun out of the game becaue you are working so hard to get that one achievement that you don't really sit back and get into the game.

Although I will be the first to admit that I am definately addicted to the little pop up and sound for unlocking an acheivement!! :flower: It does make me feel good that I was acctual able to do what was asked of me to get that achievement especially on the harder ones!! :ele:

[Cr1ms0n Toxica]

When you consider it, there really isn't prizes for beating a game. It is just like Halo, you beat it or in Halo win a match and your level/gamerscore goes up. But really theres no prize for it, which is why mine is so low, since I don't care about GS.

[Sirharper]

Achievements have made me more inclined to keep working on a game I otherwise would have put down. In that sense they have made me do more of the adventuring described.

I've said this before...achievements and gamerscore mean whatever you want them to. If you care about them thats your thing. If you don't care thats your thing too.

[Sirharper]

Nice write up cleric. It was imformative, thank you!

I find that if I really like a game achievements don't really affect my gameplay, there are just some games that I find I love to take my time in like Oblivion, I love to wander and complete the side quest, clear out dungeons, etc...

In a way I feel the achievements have taken some of the fun out of the game becaue you are working so hard to get that one achievement that you don't really sit back and get into the game.

Although I will be the first to admit that I am definately addicted to the little pop up and sound for unlocking an acheivement!! :flower: It does make me feel good that I was acctual able to do what was asked of me to get that achievement especially on the harder ones!! :ele:


Oh, this info is just parroted from Gamerscore Blog. I guess I should have known better.

[Rayven Hunter]

Oh, this info is just parroted from Gamerscore Blog. I guess I should have known better.


What information in twy's post was parroted from Gamerscore blog. From what i read she is giving her opinion on what was written earlier.

[Sirharper]

What information in twy's post was parroted from Gamerscore blog. From what i read she is giving her opinion on what was written earlier.


None. I was pointing out that she, like myself initially, mistook the original post for being something he wrote himself. We know now it was only a cut-and-paste. Heck I even 5-stared this thread do you think I'd ever get the same courtesy from him?

No need for jumpy/defensiveness.

Now do you have anything of value to add to/about the topic or are you just trying to troll me into an argument?

[Twylyght Myst]

Now do you have anything of value to add to/about the topic or are you just trying to troll me into an argument?

Was that question really necessary Sir?? A question like that is what starts arguements and is really not necessary.

Because from my opinion he was just asking what part of my post was parroted.

Can't we all just get along...:lol: :flower:

[Sirharper]

Yeah actually, he's still mad at me for not agreeing with him about NASCAR. He's been throwing in little jabs ever since. He crossed the line when he attacked Higgy76 in this thread: http://www.unscripted360.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2264#post2264

[Twylyght Myst]

Yeah actually, he's still mad at me for not agreeing with him about NASCAR. He's been throwing in little jabs ever since. He crossed the line when he attacked Higgy76 in this thread: http://www.unscripted360.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2264#post2264

Sir from what I read there you also throwed Jabs at him and I don't read where he attacked Higgy76. He merely gave him opinion just as you have stated everyone has an opinion. And if he had I am sure the post would have been locked down by either myself or one of the other Mod's..

I am uneducated about Nascar, F1, Indy Car and I will freely admit that but that doesn't make me uneducated just uneducated about the sport.

I am always open and welcome to everyone's opinion and we should really get this thread back on topic please as Cleric did provide us with good information concerning achievements

[UNSCleric]

It seems Bungie and Microsoft are altering these rules even more with Halo 3 and its 1750 GamerScore.

[TXPaladin]

Well I sure hope it doesn't go to a system of having to get a perfect 1000 in order to get the extra GS/Content. I like Gamerscore, but I don't play every game thinking I have to get every think. I do try and at least beat the campaigns, but sometimes they give achievements for beating it on 2 to 3 diferent levels. I might go back later an try the harder levels, but its not a must for me really.

[UNSCleric]

Of course they would never force you to have 1000/1000 just to get DLC or extra achievements.