GTA IV Thread: Talk About it Here

[blazsox]

I figure why do many threads when there can be just one.
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I'll start, there is a new feature found in GTA IV - the boot feature. Read about it here (http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?sectionId=1006&articleId=2007053014252347099&releaseId=20060308105930968037). Interesting, I wonder if this can reduce the wanted level since the body is now hidden from public view? Of course if a policeman spots you do it, the wanted level wont reduce, unless you gave him a hefty bribe.

Thats another thing I want them to change, instead of driving over the stars to reduce your wanted level, why not have your character be able to walk up to a policeman and give him a bribe (a la The Godfather). Keep the stars, as they are fun to chase for, but add this as well.

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[DeaconBlade]

there can be only one. (had to say it) lol

[big isy]

The clothing thing was another interesting tidbit. Games radar asked if blood would be available and then went further to ask whether clothing would soak up the blood, or if NPC's would react to blood. Say if the police saw you covered in blood, they'd freak out.

[blazsox]

I just read OXM's July 2007 article on it and there are a few notable things:

- Along with no planes, there are also no bikes (no idea if that includes motorcycles). I actually liked the bikes in San Andreas, and NYC is a perfect place for bikes, IMO. Hate to see them taken out.

- Lazlow is not in the game (radio DJ)

- There is absolutely no connection in story or character between GTA IV and the rest of the games. This is an entirely isolated game from the previous GTAs. I always loved bringing back old characters, or at least expanding some of them. For instance, the Forrellis in GTA VC and GTA3. Toni Cipriani in GTA LCS and GTA3, etc....

- Water is not fatal; meaning you can still swim ;)

- The magazine quotes, "Though you shouldn't expect Rampages, eating yourself to obesity, or having to pump iron in the gym...." - does this mean Rampages are no more? In GTA SA Rampages were mainly multiplayer, but in previous games they were great. Also does this also imply character customization has been toned down, at least in physical appearance? While it was not a big feature of San Andreas, working out did help your character in some way.

- You can hijack locked cars.

- Forget Crackdown, Niko can climb as well and jump from building to building ;)

- Aiming system has been improved, it was more like Saints Row.

- No loading screens after the initial loading screen.

- The wanted level system will be completely different.

- Hear radios of other cars, basically how you could in Saints Row.

- The game will have areas locked off at the beginning as in past GTAs.

Thats about it.

[big isy]

ALso, German Gamepro and Australian OPM say this;

-ATM machines look to be accessible.
-Less realistic HUD stuff is being toned down like arrows showing you where to go. Could be substituted with Niko's gadgetry.
-You'll have a wardbrobe in your house.

[DeaconBlade]

i hope this game is good. i'm not a GTA fan but i want to be a fan of this.

[aquaboy1976]

I never really got into the GTA games that much. I think my favorite thing about them was that I could listen to 80s music in Vice City.

Maybe I'll read up on this one and see if it sounds interesting to me.

[blazsox]

Its going to rock. Rockstar North is one of I think, 3 developers that have never disappointed me. Keep in mind R* used to be DMA Design, and I also count them.

The three developers: Incognito (formerly SingleTrac), Insomniac, and Rockstar North.

[big isy]

This one is being led by the Scottish Rockstar team, cos you know, us Brits are great like that :afro:

[DeaconBlade]

i've noticed more of you Brits developing my games...what up with that lol

[big isy]

Brits have always been creating the games, we just never publish 'em.

[blazsox]

Rockstar North have always been Scottish and have developed the console GTAs.

[die coward]

I own every single GTA game and I plan to own this one too.

I hope that you don't have to collect 100 hidde packages, 100 horseshoes, 100 oysters, 100 tag spots, etc. They also need to make it so every single time a car flips over, it doesn't blow up.

I hope they keep the driving and motorcycle schools. Those were challenging and fun at the same time. Also, I hope that they add Xbox Live play too! That would be so much fun. Anyone know if this is going to happen?

[blazsox]

There is going to be multiplayer. But its not a simple deathmatch thing, I guess its similar to that of GTA SA (where its implemented throughout the game at points - Rampages in San Andreas).

I hope they keep the 100 whatever things. San Andreas had a whole bunch of shit to look for, and man it was great trying to find it all. I did eventually find everything without no use of guides. It takes away the fun, IMO, using guides.

I was so sad to see they dropped the hidden packages in SA, but instead they had a variety of different things to search for, so it made up for it.

I as well hope they keep the schools, or something similar to that. Those were great and challenging at the same time.

[die coward]

There is going to be multiplayer. But its not a simple deathmatch thing, I guess its similar to that of GTA SA (where its implemented throughout the game at points - Rampages in San Andreas).

I hope they keep the 100 whatever things. San Andreas had a whole bunch of shit to look for, and man it was great trying to find it all. I did eventually find everything without no use of guides. It takes away the fun, IMO, using guides.

I was so sad to see they dropped the hidden packages in SA, but instead they had a variety of different things to search for, so it made up for it.

I as well hope they keep the schools, or something similar to that. Those were great and challenging at the same time.

Well maybe they can actually make the 100 whatever things useful, like in Crackdown where the agility orbs raise your stats. Maybe GTA IV can do something like that.

[blazsox]

The 100 packages were always useful. Each time you collect 10 you got a weapon to your warehouse (im referring to the hidden packages). And you got bonuses as well for finding the stuff in San Andreas.

[die coward]

The 100 packages were always useful. Each time you collect 10 you got a weapon to your warehouse (im referring to the hidden packages). And you got bonuses as well for finding the stuff in San Andreas.

I guess you are right.

What did the SA packages give you?

[blazsox]

I dont recall what they all gave you, but I remember the Snapshots giving you weapons in San Fierro

[blazsox]

New trailer in 2 weeks (06/28/07)

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/trailer_splash.html

[SuMeRiaN]

Without a sticky this thread would of died a long time ago..

A sticky for GTA but no HALO..

[SuMeRiaN]

This is one hot topic, I almost burnt my self viewing it...

[blazsox]

Kudos to Big Isy for this info, which apparently is from a Turkish Xbox Magazine (I know, wtf):

1) When you move, there is a slight vibration with every footstep when you run

2) The HUD has been removed- no health or armour indicators, it is all visual- and if you have armour, you actually have a bulletproof vest which visually deteriates

3) Flamethrower and rocket launcher are still in the game

4) Explosions are larger than ever, and there is a mission in the game based on creating an awesome chain reaction of car explosions- apparently this looks awesome

4) Cars dont explode unless you blow them up- ie they wont explode if you just keep crashing or hitting them- you have to rocket launch into them

5) Niko doesnt get tired- you can run forever, it just wont be as fast as previously.

6) more RPG elements, ie - for a mission, you must catch the train at 7pm, and if you dont, you dont get to do that particular mission (they just gave this as an example, the scenario isnt confirmed in the game yet)

7) Gore is back and better, bullet wounds show, blood appears where you shoot people, they limp if you shoot them in the leg, and hold their arm if you shoot their arm. Apparently when you run someone over it is disturbing (but they gave no more detail)

No eating, girlfriends, keeping fit- but your skills do improve over time (driving etc)

9) Secret vehicles and “plenty of goodies” at 100% completion- no more details given (either not revealed or simply not known yet)

10) Land size is bigger than the 3 cities (not country) in SA put together

11) graphics are better than Saints Row- draw distance is literally as far as you can see

12) new trailer will be on the internet 28th of June

Only thing on that list that has been confirmed is #12.

[die coward]

Wow I can't wait.

[blazsox]

Confirmed details from 1UP:
- There will be a total of 3 trailers (1 already has been shown, 1 will be shown this coming week, so there is 1 left)
- Opening loading screen could be as long as 10 minutes long (360 dev kit blamed ;))

No real big new details besides those 2. They do say R* keeps updating the RAGE engine, so by time the game gets complete it will be on the most up to date engine that R* created from scratch.

listen to the podcast segment here (http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=76067)

[die coward]

10 minutes?? Damn it must be worth it then.

[gravedigger8081]

lets hope

[blazsox]

Oh trust me, its already worth it. Heh, got both versions pre-ordered.

[blazsox]

Here is what the special edition swag will look like. It will be the same for both systems (obviously the game cases will be different ;)).



http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9351-noscale-GTA%20IV%20Special%20Edition%20Set%20_%20Xbox%2036 0.jpg

[Sirharper]

This will bring me back long enough to play it. GTA is my favorite series ever.

[blazsox]

5 minutes till Trailer 2 :)

Should be up on the R* website at 12:01AM. XBL is supposedly going to have it too.

[blazsox]

Who the **** launches a trailer at 1:00PM EST?

Apparently R* for Trailer 2.

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[DeaconBlade]

the trailer is already up..your countdown is whack!

and i added a countdown to the game in the original thread. :)

[ThisIsTheEnd]

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Here you go guys!

[DeaconBlade]

meh.

[blazsox]

That trailer kicked ****ing ass.

I want this game.....NOW!

[Sirharper]

I'm looking forward to this game more than any other, maybe ever.

But...I still do not see how some of you can watch a trailer with game cutscreens and get all hard over it. I makes no sense to me. As usual, I rate this trailer also as...ho hum.

[gravedigger8081]

I can't wait for the achievement list

[blazsox]

I'm looking forward to this game more than any other, maybe ever.

But...I still do not see how some of you can watch a trailer with game cutscreens and get all hard over it. I makes no sense to me. As usual, I rate this trailer also as...ho hum.

I'm extremely biased when it comes to GTA :grinking:

Its the one franchise where I want to beat it start to finish, and get the full 100%. Took me 2 years to get 100% on San Andreas. I dont use guides, cheats, or any of that shit.

[Rayeh]

I'm not impressed by this trailer. I'll wait for some gameplay footage. Not going to play the game again for the umpteenth time.

[blazsox]

The graphics wont be any different in gameplay, thats what the game will look like.

[Rayeh]

Right. I realize that. I said I wanted to see gameplay footage. I want to see if the gameplay has evolved at all, or if it will simply be the same thing.

[Sirharper]

I'm extremely biased when it comes to GTA :grinking:

Its the one franchise where I want to beat it start to finish, and get the full 100%. Took me 2 years to get 100% on San Andreas. I dont use guides, cheats, or any of that shit.

I'm more of a Vice City guy myself but I love the GTA franchise as a whole. I don't really play them 100% though.

I mean...do I really NEED to dive for clams? I think not.

[Buddy Knox]

that trailer is awesome. i would like some in-game shit though, i can't lie.

[SuMeRiaN]

The graphics wont be any different in gameplay, thats what the game will look like.


You cant be serious, you are joking right ?

[Rayeh]

You cant be serious, you are joking right ?

I believe he is correct, it would only make sense to show off cinematics rendered using the game's engine.

[blazsox]

Rockstar Games have always used the game engine for cinematics. Maybe I am wrong, but all the games Ive played has never had CG or a seperate engine.

[blazsox]

Here is a custom made boxart. Damn, its impressive and personally I think should be the official one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/gamer4432/gtaivboxartgj9.png

[Kinjutsumaru]

That box art is not official ? That shit is tight.

[blazsox]

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[blazsox]

Here is an even better custom box cover:

http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/360/8863_grand_theft_auto_4-v2-orig.png

[blazsox]

NOOOOO.

GTA IV Delayed till 2008.

Linkage (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6176074.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;1)

While it helps my wallet....it just sucks that this happened. Im usually all for delays to make sure quality is push ahead....but.....this is GTA.

[AeroHudson]

I'm a little pleased with this announcement. I have soooo many games I am planning on buying that this definitely helps the wallet as you stated blaz. Not to mention it gives me more time to play the games I am getting this Fall and also gives me something to look forward to for next Spring.

On the business side, this sucks for both platforms but sucks worse for Sony. This was really the only potential system seller they had on the slate. With that gone, their holiday just took a big hit.

[Rayeh]

I agree Hudson, I already have quite the queue of games that are already out to play through. Honestly, I'm more interested in Mass Effect, CoD4, Bioshock, Blue Dragon, Lost Oddysey, and of course Halo 3.

[Sirharper]

I'd rather Halo3 be delayed and get GTA on time. But, oh well.

I am glad the two are seperated by more time though, I was a little concerned about splitting time between them.

I just wish I didn't have to wait for GTA.

[GTAps2SanA]

Thompson Lobbies the release of GTA: IV (http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/read_article.php?topic_id=25942414&union_id=1846), saying a character killed in-game resembles him too much....

[GTAps2SanA]

Analyst: GTAIV could best Halo 3's debut
Janco Partners' Mike Hickey says Rockstar's latest could "conceivably" ship 9.5 million in the first week, more than twice Microsoft's 4.4 million.
By Brendan Sinclair, GameSpot
Posted Oct 9, 2007 1:58 pm CT

In announcing Halo 3's first-week sales of $300 million, Microsoft called it "the fastest-selling video game ever." That record might be relatively short-lived, if a new report from Janco Partners analyst Mike Hickey proves accurate.

Hickey attributes the success of Halo 3 to a growing fan base for the franchise, a general demand for high-quality content, and the game's release early in the current generation's life cycle. Those same factors will be playing into next year's release of Grand Theft Auto IV, Hickey said. In addition, the Xbox 360 installed user base will be significantly larger by the time GTA IV comes out, and the addition of a PlayStation 3 edition of the game should boost sales significantly as well. Putting those factors together, Hickey suggests that the market is generally underestimating the next GTA game's initial success.

With Halo 3, Hickey believes Microsoft shipped 5.2 million copies of the game for its first week of release, and sold through 4.4 million. That leads to a 67 percent attach rate (percentage of all console owners who purchased the game) in the US, Hickey said. He believes that rate dips to 46 percent when adding in Europe.

Although Hickey doesn't think Grand Theft Auto IV will sell to as large a percentage of Xbox 360 owners, he notes that the expanding installed user base for the Xbox 360 and PS3 could offset whatever shortcoming there is. Even with a projected attach rate of only 20 percent (which Hickey stresses is very conservative), that would indicate first-week sales for the game of 3.5 million units. Hickey seemed more comfortable with a 30 percent attach rate, which would suggest first-week shipments of 5.3 million copies. But there's also a best-case scenario.

"If the upcoming release of GTA IV attached at the same rate as Halo 3," Hickey wrote, "the title could conceivably ship 9.5 million units of [the] game in the first week, producing an astonishing $466 million in sales." In such a case, Hickey projects first-week sales of the game would approach 8.1 million copies.

[Souf Centrol]

I can't wait until GTA 4 comes out, didn't they say it's suppose to have some kind of online play?

[blazsox]

Well the final trailer is out and I must say, bring me this game now. While it didnt exactly pump me up as the previous ones did....I just want my GTA IV.

Ive pretty much decided Id pick the PS3 version up due simply because of familiarized controls. I have played all previous GTAs either on the analog PS1 controller and then the DualShock 2 so I will just stick with the PS3 controller for GTA IV.

Cant wait.

[CanadianZero]

i cant wait for it...


and i'll be 17 by the time it comes out.....not that it would have stopped me in the first place :)

[Mateo113]

I cant wait, it looks like its going to be awesome. Vice City was my favorite game on the ps2.

[dionysusolympus]

Well the final trailer is out and I must say, bring me this game now. While it didnt exactly pump me up as the previous ones did....I just want my GTA IV.

Ive pretty much decided Id pick the PS3 version up due simply because of familiarized controls. I have played all previous GTAs either on the analog PS1 controller and then the DualShock 2 so I will just stick with the PS3 controller for GTA IV.

Cant wait.

agreed, the last trailer hooked me, too. I'm getting the Special Edition...the story looks pretty sweet.

[blazsox]

The Special Edition is a crap offering. If they offered the entire soundtrack I would definitely jump on it.

[dionysusolympus]

The Special Edition is a crap offering. If they offered the entire soundtrack I would definitely jump on it.

:beer:

:help:

[ReaperHybrid]

I haven't really followed the GTA series, but I am strangely getting excited about GTA 4. Does anyone know (or have any guesses) about what the multiplayer for GTA 4 will be like ? Thanks!

[USB Cable]

The last one had co op on the same screen so hopefully there's co op over live. They might do something else over live but no info has been released about online tings.

[ReaperHybrid]

Thanks USB, I hope so too!

[blazsox]

I'm personally hoping for no multiplayer. Doesnt need it to be a great game; the previous ones didnt.

Although I will admit the MP in GTA LCS on PSP was quite fun.

Once a PC version hits Im sure the mod community will be in love with that, and I wouldnt be surprised if the mods make it over to the PS3 version.

[guywholovesrice]

i'm just confused on how the multiplayer is going to work. Since the main character of GTA is all badass, the only way i could see it would be like a co-op hunt agaisnt a swarm of police and not against each other

[penny84]

This sure will be a good game and will be played for months after release.

[blazsox]

Ive already got the Tuesday and Wednesday off from work and college for it. I work that Monday night before release, so I'll grab a copy as soon as I get out of work.

[DJSteel]

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